A recent report says that despite recent military gains against al-Shabaab, Somali security services are unlikely to be fully ready when African Union forces leave the country by the end of 2024. The report, by the Mogadishu-based think tank Heritage Institute for Political Studies, predicts that there will be a delay in the drawdown of the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) troops. For more insight, VOA's Vincent Makori spoke with Paul Williams, co-author of the report and professor at George Washington University in Washington.